Thundaboom 2011-08-04 17:26:22

you wish

Chdonga 2011-08-04 18:16:40

Dubstep without the WUB WUB WUB drop is really just Drum & Bass.

sunsetkid98 2011-08-04 19:58:48

lol never heard of dubstep seems important

Starogre 2011-08-04 20:34:35

stop trying to argue it, just listen to the music and enjoy life

JonHunter 2011-08-04 22:07:59

There's pornstep too..

Although, just a quick one: Dubstep, as many other genrés of the electronic music. Is purely experimental. I mean, they all evolve from some where. Out of a reason, out of experiments.

There's even a mix between the harddance/house style known as Hardstyle with Dubstep, Dubstyle. Check "The MF Point of Perfection" for more. Really sweet.

SpamClamberton 2011-08-05 02:46:28

Woo, let's break subgenres into subgenres until there's no room for originality anymore.
If a genuinely skilled musician who knew what they were doing was inspired by Spanish flamenco music, metal, dubstep and Jewish folk tunes, they could borrow elements from all of those and incorporate it into their music. But if they went around referring to it as a new genre called KLEZMERSTEP-FLAMENCORE, they'd inspire lots of little dickweeds to write their own, which would sound exactly the fucking same. What started as one person's original vision became everyone elses restrictions, which is exactly what music isn't about.

So dubstep IS just about the wobble, because it isn't a genre. It's a sound effect. An instrument. And if people started treating it as one then maybe it we wouldn't have millions of little wubwubwub songs that all sounded identical. But I doubt that, because copying one or two other people directly is easier than drawing from a variety of sources, or learning how to actually write music in the first place.

ryphos 2011-08-05 03:06:06

DubStep is just a random genre of music with the wub wub wub added in, and to be honest I think it's utter shit.

SpamClamberton 2011-08-05 14:21:13

I agree that subgenres are good for finding stuff you like. They're not good for making the stuff in the first place. I had a look into 'Pornstep' that Portalfudge mentioned. It was an interesting idea, sampling porn and some wubwub stuff. Whoever did it first did something genuinely interesting. But there were several different people doing it, which is still cool, but they weren't being inspired by the previous idea, they were copying it. Instead of working out interesting ways to utilise it or expand upon the idea, you had several people following out one person's innovation precisely with no variation. And referring to it as 'Pornstep' in the first place makes people feel ok with that, because now instead of copying it's 'being a part of something'. If a listener heard this great porn sampling idea by Johnny McBallsack and was inspired to write something, he'd probably think "I don't want it to sound TOO much like Johnny McBallsack, I should try and take this in another direction, add my own twist on it." But if you call it Pornstep and it becomes a collective that you can be a part of, then Mr young inspired listener suddenly WANTS his music to be exactly what the last guy did, because that ensures he's contributing to his new favourite subculture that he's decided he wants to be in on. It makes people want to be pigeonholed, and it's silly.

Dunso 2011-08-05 15:28:33

I think the "wobble wobble wub wub wub" should be featured a little less, it makes the whole thing generic in my opinion. I enjoy variation far more.

Blak-Phoenix 2011-08-05 17:30:19

wouldn't glitch hop be more of a mix between glitch and hip-hop?

Pixelested 2011-08-05 17:48:55

LULZ, "THERE WILL ALWAYS BE COPYCATS!"

Oh well, you could have said "THERE'S NO STOPPING HUMAN NATURE" instead and still wouldn't make a difference. People do the same thing, oh well. That's just a part of being alive is to replicate something as we see it, and either add originality into it or not.

Take a look at some of Haywire's music on NG. His blend of old school hip-hop with dubstep makes it seem interesting in the least. I get tired of the big bass shit that is so reproduced. BUT...I will say, one variation of dubstep I like to an extent is Darkstep. Some people refer to that, so I guess I will in case you don't understand, however besides that point, it relies a lot on the element of dark atmosphere, while maintaining an equal amount of bass and drops.